Roger, VE3ZI posed this question on the UK conntest reflector and I have posted it here together with replies, comments.
Subject: [UKHF-CONT] Remote Operation
I spent part of this last weekend operating in Sweepstakes which is quite good fun for NA stations. One of the stations active was VY!AAA in the Yukon. This is remotely operated from various places, non of which are in the Yukon.
RSGB contests (specifically BERU) allow remote operation from within the same section only. I personally think this is an excellent rule although others may disagree.
My question is:
If VY1AAA were to be active in BERU it would obviously not be eligible to enter the contest. Fine. What is the situation for those who work that station in the contest? Would the contact be allowed for points? What about a remote station that was not widely known to be remotely operated?
73 Roger
VE3ZI/G3RBP
Hi Roger,
This is an interesting question which I haven’t considered. It would be interesting to hear the opinions of some of the subscribers to this group.
The rules that have been added for remote operation in 2018 have been based on those adopted by other adjudication bodies, such as CQWW, but with adjustments to make them appropriate to each of our RSGB contests. These allow remote operation in RSGB contests under particular circumstances and in Beru, they restrict remote operation to that within a particular Commonwealth Call Area – or remote operation of the operator’s home station from another country.
Roger’s question is looking at remote operation from a slightly different angle. He is interested in how contacts with non-entrant remote stations should be adjudicated in RSGB contests. For example, should a QSO with VY1AAA in Beru be accepted for Commonwealth Call Area and QSO points, where VY1AAA is operated remotely and not taking part in Beru, but the other party to the QSO who is an entrant is, (dare I say, tongue in cheek), an innocent party to the remote operation of their QSO partner.
Should the benefit of the doubt be with the entrant in this case?
Kind Regards,
Nick Totterdell G4FAL,
RSGB HF Contest Committee Chair
Posted by:
“Tom Wylie” tomwylie15
entry from THAT station would be as a Canadian Country in the province
where the station is located. It shouldnt matter where else in Canada
the operator is sitting, or if a Canadian Licencee was using that
station perhaps even from a different country. Does the Canadian
Licensing System allow foreigners to use Canadian stations remotely?…………
by the status of other operators concerned. Contacts logged with
VY1AA should count as normal, regardless of how that station is
controlled or operated. …….
QSOs with VY1AAA should be accepted for QSO and Bonus points. The transmitter and antennas are in Yukon, and the station should be considered just as valid as any other Yukon station.
Canadian regulations limit remote operation to people who hold a Canadian Advanced Certificate – our top-level licence. The principal gatekeeper for VY1AAA is Gerry VE1RM aka W1VE. Gerry is making certain that all of the VY1AAA operators hold a Canadian Advanced Certificate. Some of the VY1AAA ops are in Canada, some in other countries, but they all hold the correct category of Canadian certificate.
In short: don’t worry, be happy, and work VY1AAA if you can.
Bob et al (& RSGB CC),The stations logging them in BERU should not be penalized. As for a remote station being used, it shouldn’t matter where the remote station is as long as BOTH RX AND TX are in the SAME BERU call area, and within the same ‘location’ (and the rules between different contests vary hugely in that regard). However IMHO it should not be limited to the same DXCC as for some that means they could be split by 1,000’s of miles but within a handful of miles. On the other side for a remote station to ‘count’ though I would advise that the operator HAS to have physically been at the station either during initial setup, the contest or at some point in recent history. 72 Dom M1KTA